Liberty Without Moral Values ???
By: Christopher Hansen
I wrote the following in response to an Email on another group concerning basic
Libertarian beliefs that you can do whatever you want to do if you are on your own
property. I thought it may be of interest to others deciding how to vote this year and
what laws you should support or fight.
Can you plan a plan to overthrow the Constitution on private land?
Can you, with the consent of the other person as the sacrifice, have human sacrifice on
private land?
Can you have sex with a minor child on private land?
Can you commit adultery on private land?
Can you have an abortion on private land? (If government can determine when the right to
life begins then they have the power to change that date to any time of life from
conception to old age. If the government does not have the duty to protect life and punish
those that take the lives of others then why have any government at all?)
Marriage is considered the foundation of society. Since marriage has been slowly and
systematically destroyed the Country has been slowly turned to socialism.
Here is the problem that Atheists and Libertarians never consider.
If you do not have a moral and religious people you cannot have a free people.
We are granted Unalienable rights by God and according to the Founding Fathers God can
take those rights away. When we do not have basic laws that promote morality like laws
against homosexuality, abortion, adultery and having children outside the bonds of
marriage then it slowly steals the liberty from everyone.
Lack of morality and virtue breaks down society. It violates the laws of Natures God and
when you violate those laws their are natural consequences. Sexually transmitted diseases
have tremendous costs on government. Divorce has great costs on society. Abortion has
great costs on society just like the murder of children does. Children of divorce are a
great cost on society. Adultery has costs on society. Look at the cost on society slavery
created. This was the ONE major flaw in the basic morality of the Founders and it almost
destroyed America. Slavery cost much more than any other lack of morality and virtue.
These costs start out very small but they grow into monsters just like slavery did and the
cost will be on the same level. Violation of the laws of nature's god ALWAYS HAVE COST.
They take time but they grow and grow until the cost is like trying to pay back a loan
shark. Death or slavery are ALWAYS the outcome.
This is why there were laws against these things in 1790. They understood how important
basic morality was. Religion and morality are the twin pillars of a free society.
EVERYTHING that weakens these pillars threaten the liberty of the people within that
society.
Charles says that if he sees a drunk with a gun, waving it around by his family he would
knock the man to the ground. If you know that this same man did it every time he got drunk
because he lived next door to you what would you do then when you saw a case of liquor
delivered to his home? If you did not act and your child got killed whose at fault?
If you know what the outcome is going to be by a particular act and you do nothing about
it then it is as much your fault as it is their fault.
Throughout history, it has been the inaction of those who could have acted; the
indifference of those who should have known better; the silence of the voice of justice
when it mattered most; that has made it possible for evil to triumph. Haile Selassie
Look at gun rights. Anyone that knows anything about history knows that when people lose
their guns they lose their liberty. All of the intelligent people on this group would die
before they gave their guns up and we are fighting against these licensing laws and
regulations that slowly encroach on our gun rights because we understand that small steps
steal liberty and is the way liberty is ALWAYS lost except by outright conquest.
But then these same people say that acts of immorality should be allowed because they hurt
no one.
The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole
body of the people are armed. Noah Webster
We all know this but why then do these same people reject other truths by the Founders?
Can it be that Providence has not connected the permanent felicity of a nation with
its virtue? George Washington
Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and
vicious, they have more need of masters. Benjamin Franklin
Those who will not be governed by God, will be ruled by tyrants. William Penn
The courts like to use a term called the slippery slope when claiming to protect
Constitutional guaranteed rights.. Legalizing Adultery, Homosexuality, Abortion, Easy
Divorce, sex and children out of wedlock all lead to the destruction of liberty.
Now you Atheists and Libertarians can scream and yell but the fact is is that the
Founding Fathers laid down the ground rules for what it would take to maintain our
Republic and you constantly reject those requirements in an attempt to please your
carnal desires.
You are all on the slippery slope that leads to the loss of liberty. You Atheists and
Libertarians want something that DOES NOT WORK. It does not support but UNDERMINES
LIBERTY. The French tried it your way and history is clear on that experiment.
History and the Founding Fathers Testify against you. YOU CANNOT HAVE
LIBERTY WITHOUT VIRTUE AND MORALITY ANY MORE THAN YOU CAN MAINTAIN IT WITHOUT GUN RIGHTS.
The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been two hundred years.
These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from
spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from
abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy;
from apathy to dependence; from dependency back again into bondage. Fraser Tyler, English
historian
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and
morality are indispensable supports. George Waswhigton
Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just. Thomas Jefferson
Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is when a people forget God then tyrants forge their
chains. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with
freedom. No free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people
but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality, and virtue; and by
a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles. Patrick Henry
The worship of God is a duty...Freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by other men, but a
right that belongs to us by the laws of God and nature… I never doubted the existence
of the
Deity, that he made the world, and governed it by His Providence...The pleasures of this
world are rather from God's goodness than our own merit... Whoever shall introduce into
the public affairs the principles of primitive Christianity will change the face of the
world... Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. Benjamin Franklin
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly
inadequate to the government of any other. John Adams
The God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought
secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people
that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His
wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice
cannot sleep forever.Thomas Jefferson
To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness without any virtue
in the people, is a chimerical idea. James Madison
If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any natural
right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such
renunciation. The right to freedom being a gift of ALMIGHTY GOD, it is not in the power of
man to alienate this gift and voluntarily become a slave.Samuel Adams, 1772
The aim of every political Constitution, is or ought to be first to obtain for rulers men
who possess most wisdom to discern, and most virtue to pursue, the common good of society;
and in the next place, to take the most effectual precautions for keeping them virtuous
whilst they continue to hold their public trust. James Madison
Let them revere nothing but Religion, Morality, and Liberty... Religion and Virtue are the
only foundations, not only of republicanism and of all free governments, but of social
felicity under all governments and in all the combinations of human society. John Adams
Public virtue cannot exist in a nation without private, and public virtue is the only
foundation of republics.John Adams
We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of
government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions
upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to
sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God. James Madison
America is great because she is good, and if America ever ceases to be good America will
cease to be great. Alexis de Tocqueville
If there is a possibility of founding a perfectly free government, and giving it
permanent duration, it must be raised upon the pure maxims, and supported by the
undecaying practice, of that religion, which breathes "peace on earth, and good will
to men." That religion is perfectly republican… it is calculated to
humble the pride and allay the discontents of men… it restrains the magistrate from
oppression, and the subject from revolt… it secures a perfect equality of rights, by
enjoining a discharge of all social duties, and a strict subordination to law. The
universal prevalence of that religion, in its true spirit, would banish tyranny from the
earth. Yet this religion has been perverted, and in many countries, made the basis of a
system of ecclesiastical domination, which has enslaved the minds of men, as political
power had before enslaved their bodies. To correct these evils, a set of fanatical
reformers, called philosophers, charging that oppression to the religion itself, which
sprung only from its abuses, have boldly denied the sacred origin of Christianity, and
attempted to extirpate its doctrines and institutions. Strange, indeed, that the zealous
advocates of a republican government, should wage an inveterate war against the only
system of religious principles, compatible with rational freedom, and calculated to
maintain a republican constitution! Noah Webster
The moral principles and precepts contained in the Scriptures ought to form the basis of
all our civil constitutions and laws. All the miseries and evils which men suffer from
vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery and war, proceed from their
despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible. Noah Webster
Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral
chains upon their appetites… in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the
counsels of the wise and good in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot
exist unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere, and the less
of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal
constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge
their fetters. Edmund Burke